But Obama wouldn’t be where he is today without racism! Everybody knows that!

I am finding it surprisingly hard to be a big person.

Thanks Cliff.

Word is that her latest attempts to sway the Supers are falling flat, the “perceived racial insensitivity” from her interview is hurting her badly in that group.

Right now, I think her campaign is just trying to keep the flood of Supers to Obama from starting until after 6/3. I think that’s their graceful exit strategy.

I’m starting to read a LOT more speculation that Hillary is angling for the VP slot and positioning herself as the President After Obama. Frankly, I have trouble seeing that. I think there are a lot of hard feelings between the two camps and even if there weren’t there’d be practical and political considerations.

Would Hillary Overshadow Obama?

Who’s really in charge?

What about Bill?

Does Hillary help or hurt the ticket’s electability in Novemeber? She wouldn’t change my vote, but I’d prefer somebody else.

I’m sure the political pros can come up with even more concerns. My thought is that Obama needs someone to shore up his foreign policy/defense credentials. I’d bet he’s looking for a middle aged white male who voted for Reagan ONCE.

Boxturtle (Off the top of my head, Wes Clark might be a good choice)

I think it was a major mistake for Clinton to start citing SNL satire as “evidence” that Obama was getting soft treatment from the media. I honestly don’t think it occurred to her that poking satirists and implying that they’re taking sides is just an open invitation to have their sights trained on you.

hahahahaha!!
The H2O or air or SOMETHING in DC does seem to short circuit certain thought patterns…..

What about Clinton as AG ?

I’ve been hopping for Wes as VP all season……

oops…hopeing not hopping! (i’d be pretty tired by now!)

Do not mess with vengeful and vindictive comedians with a national venue.

Clinton as AG?!? I want her as far away from anything legal as possible. She’ll use the Justice dept just like Abu Gonzo did, only to protect Dems.

I’d want to keep her in the senate, with a leadership position. There’s no doubt she can get things done. I’d like to see Bill as Secty of State.

Boxturtle (I must admit, the idea of Conyers as AG has merit. ]:-) )

I would think he’d prefer a VP candidate he could trust.

The Amy Poehler video was right on target. We have way too much racism and illegitimate snobbery in this country without a Presidential candidate trying to amplify it and metastasize it exponentially as Clinton is doing in her last days before the quick sand covers her head for good.

The most graceful exit strategy would have been for her never to enter this race trying to sell superior experience that she and her lame brained surrogates kept touting as experience without lending definition to said “experience.”
No one was ever able to fill in a Clinton CV that made a set of PP bullets as to her experience.

When she had no substantive means of butressing her claim to experience, she began to manufacture stories that were delusional and fictional like the sniper fire in Bosnia that are symptoms of a Borderline Personality disorder as either defined by Heinz Kohut or John Gunderson at the McLean Center for the Treatment of Borderline Personality Disorder.

While she was quick to say Obama had no experience he had ballpark the same time she did in the Senate. Obama led ethics reform legislation, and no one can recall one bill that Clinton passed. Everyone can recall her supporting the fiasco in Iraq with not a finger lifted to protect the troops vehicle wise or head injury wise (no one in Congress has moved to do that to this moment). He spent a lot more years organizing altruistically fighting for civil rights instead of manuevering in the Rose law firm after fluking the DC bar never to return to retake it again.

For those who keep goofily thinking Clinton has a chance to be Obama’s running mate, I’d consider the more viable possibilities with greater odds like Britney Spears or Nicole Ritchie.

There aren’t going to be two more Clintons running around the White House in an Obama administrationa and the only cabinet she gets near are those in her Georgetown Mansion or her Chippequa mansion where she should stay and keep her racist nastiness to herself.

H/T Jeralyn Merritt for continuing to show what happens when a delusional lawyer morphs her blog into her fantasy life for the purposes of comedy:

Posted this morning after Hillary Clinton has been effectively eliminated:

Jeralyn Merritt’s Fantasy Hillary If Only She Hadn’t Lost Blog

“A Better Role for Obama”

I think Barack Obama’s greatest contribution to America would be as Attorney General in a Hillary Clinton administration.

How attorney Merritt thinks this is going to happen when Clinton won’t be the nominee is intriguing. I’m not sure what caselaws she’s citing in her imaginary world.

She has effectively and quite fortunately for this country eliminated any chance of a leadership position in the Senate. This is not the pre-Civil War Senate. The slaves have been emancipated and the best place for Clinton’s racist rhetoric is as a Grand Dragon in the KKK or as McCain’s VP running mate.

She has campaigned hard for McCain and it has gotten her in exactly the same place that McCain’s campaigning for McCain is going to land him.

Pete - I’m going to respond against my better judgment - Hillary is a long way from being the equivalent of a KKK dragon, or of McCain for that matter. You’re going a bit over the top here.

I’d want to keep her in the senate, with a leadership position. There’s no doubt she can get things done. I’d like to see Bill as Secty of State.

Help me out with the current events here, Boxturtle.

Precisely what is it that she has gotten done while she was in the Senate for Seven years? You say there is no doubt she can get things done. What has she done?

She stole rugs and furniture from the White House. She hid her 2007 tax returns. She hid the possibly criminal contributions to the Clinton Library and refuses to reveal them because she is frightened to do so. She failed the D.C. bar exam right after Yale law school, and didn’t have the guts to retake it ever for more than 30 years and she has a home in D.C. and funds for transportation to the bar exam.

She passed notes to Bill Clinton to secure pardons for Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, who had been convicted of bank fraud in Alabama after they paid her brother Tony hundreds of thousands of dollars.

She passed notes to Bill Clinton to secure a pardon for Almon Glenn Braswell, who had been convicted of mail fraud and perjury, and for the release from prison of Carlos Vignali, a drug trafficker who was convicted and imprisoned for conspiring to sell 800 pounds of cocaine. Sure enough, in his last hours in office after Braswell paid brother Hugh Rodham $400,000.

Clinton also pardoned Denise Rich’s husband who was a federal fugitive, after she contributed nearly $400,000 to the library. This is a perfect example of why the Clintons refuse to release the library contributor list.

The Clintons received $86,000 of illegal gifts in the last year in the White House that we know about.

All the above was the subject of Bob Herbert’s column the other day:

Seeds of Destruction

Thanks, Cliff. I missed the open of the show last night. Yikes, that was harsh and funny. It’s Hillary turned up to eleven. (I’m a big fan of Spinal Tap.)

I respectfully disagree. She’s showing her true “colors” as people often do when they are flailing and struggling against one of the biggest disappointments and defeats of their lives, particularly when Clinton exulted and basked in the glow of would she or wouldn’t she accept the “inevitable coronation of the Presidency” the way my puppie does when she marches around with her squeak toys wiggling her butt and letting you know she’s on the cusp of the next Nobel prize.

This is a very racist country. Being white I have had access to ignorant raccism voiced by people without a pot to piss in and millionaires on a regular basis.

And I can tell you this and invite you to check it out Fern. Tune in to Black (eumphamized as “urban” as so many black institutions are now since it is apparently a “politically correct term” radio. (I always thought that urban meant in the city as opposed to out in the suburbs for years).

Tune into urban radio. For months people have said that if Clinton were to be able to steal the election via Super D’s they would not vote for her and I mean all of them. Now that she has been defeated soundly, people are still cursing her as a racist pig, and I mean in droves.

For every Stephanie Tubbs Jones or Sheilah Jackson Lee there are several hundred thousand African Americans who hate Clinton for her racism. And those votes are needed in the fall to carry the White House.

She and her husband have been chanting a racist mantra and the poorly disguised code words for racism for months and appropriately and happily it has exploded in her face.

I and many other people will never attend a fund raiser for Obama where the money is going to pay multimillionare Mark Penn. Let the Clintons dip into their ill-gotten gains themselves.

Where’s the list of Library contributors and where are the Clinton’s 2007 income tax returns? They didn’t just overlook them. They defiantly refused to release them.

And they’ve gotten what they deserved all along.

Not saying she does not have racist attitudes or actions. Just saying that there are degrees of racism and that your hyperbole is say over the top.

way over

Fern–

Precisely how do you interpret/justify the comment that McCain is experienced and qualified and Hillary is experienced and qualified made several times by Clinton and Obama is not?

Can you please list any experience she has for the job of President of the US and where she got it and what jobs qualified her that would have made her the clear choice over Obama based on experience?

Can you list what bills she ushered through the Senate and got passed?

How are you interpreting this response to USA Today? If we awarded delegates on the basis of using the phrase “you know” in a single sentence the most times in a year maybe she would have had a chance.

Well Kathy, you know…I have support of working white Americans, hard working white Americans

Delusional Borderline Personality Memories that amount to repeat explicit Lies are equated as experience by the grizzled Clinton woman

I think you are confusing me with someone who supports Hillary for the Democratic presidential nomination. I am not. So I have no need to interpret, justify or explain any of her actions.

Just don’t appreciate your rhetoric, name-calling and unwarranted comparisons.

And I will leave it at that.

Why wouldn’t he trust Clark? Admittedly, I know only what I’ve read in wiki about his recent activities.

Boxturtle (Who’s your suggestion?)

I wasn’t thinking of Clark - just reasons why he would not be likely to pick Clinton.

Maybe because you’re thinking of the childish Mickey Mouse costumes that the KKK wears with the pointy hats, robes, and the cross burning.

But if you take the speeches from a KKK rally, her tone matches them to a “T” or as Hillary would say to a “y’know T.”

What blew me away Fern in the first place was her specious fictional claim to experience that no one has been able to define who supports her.

Then she went to a new level saying Obama is an empty suit with no experience. While Hillary went from Wellsley paid for by Mommy and Daddy, to Yale Law School paid for by Mommy and Daddy, Obama got a scholarship to get through college and by a miracle got picked to go from his small community college to Columbia. Immediately after graduating from Columbia he went to work on the South side of Chicago for years. Then he went to Harvard law school on scholarship.

Mommy and Daddy paid for Hillary to go to law school. Promptly after graduating law school she flunked the DC bar and could only work on the Watergate committee in the capacity of a research clerk. She never had the courage to go back and take the D.C. bar because shes was afraid she’d flunk it repeatedly.

Hillary has never worked as a community organizer. She has had an undistinguished career in the Senate.

She lied and said Obama has not paid attention to his oversight committee on Foreign Relations with respect to Afghanistan. Only one problem exists there–he has never served on a committee overseeing Afghanistan. His sub is connected with Europe.

There is a Senator who has been on 3 subs that directly oversee Afghanistan–and that Senator on the Senate Armed Forces committee is Hillary Rodham Clinton. Afghanistan is a fiasco and Clinton has done nothing to impact that.

It is egregious and reprehensible that her contempt for us is so great that she thinks she can spew that bullshit and we aren’t educated enough as to what goes on in the Senate and who is on what committees to catch her.

Gas Tax bullshit–

Wouldn’t pass the Blue Dog Democrats. Wouldn’t override a Bush veto. Would sap $9-12 billion federal highway funding. Would increase fuel demand beyond refineries that haven’t been built since the 1930’s. Does nothing meaningful to raise fuel standards for cars (a few of them still are on the roads and SUVs/trucks).

I don’t know how you define pandering to stupid people Fern, but I think this is a textbook case. Clinton thinks you’re stupid; she thinks I’m stupid, and I think she’s stupid.

Clinton’s racist and lying comments have hit a wall and I’m enjoying every minute of her rejection. She has under-estimated the American people.

To be sure there are still plenty of racist ignorant and poorly educated bigots that swallow and swallowed her bullshit. It will take a long time to get rid of them.

And Clinton seems to be advocating for a new educational metric–more uneducated white people.

Look how she lives her life. Her nearly 30 year old daughter is in a $3.5 million dollar apartment that she didn’t buy. She is in a $200,000 job for a hedge fund where every other person in that job has an MBA and considerable experience advising enterprises in how to down size or become more efficient.

Those are Clinton’s values, and I’m happy to see her defeated. She never belonged in the race.

I can think of hundreds of women who do. She isn’t one of them.

Nope, I’m not confusing you as a supporter of anyone. I have no idea who you support. But I pointed out her lies, and her racist comments and the most striking fact of all. The woman made experience to be the President her mantra. She has never had any experience that qualifies her to be President. Neither did Bush and he’s killing hundreds of thousands of people, run the DOJ into the ground for a generation if not two, and has defied every word in the Constitution.

Our administration now arrests hundreds of people in this country who have no access to an attorney, wire tap the defense bar routinely, disallow discovery mandated by law, and scoffs at the U.S. Code. Little kids playing soldier could do a better job than the current show trials at Gitmo. Check out EW’s blogs.

Precisely what is it that she has gotten done while she was in the Senate for Seven years? You say there is no doubt she can get things done. What has she done?

First, everything else you said I agree with and those kind of things are what make me an Obama supporter.

What’s she done? I can’t point to a single legislative accomplishment of significance. For all but the last two years, she’s been a member of the minority in a very partisan senate and she was reduced to bloviating. Which she did well.

Over the last two years, shes been doing nothing but running for president. And she darn near got it.

With the democrats in control, she & Bill will have lots of behind the scenes influence, just like always. Bill will always be a major fundraiser.

You listed some pretty significant accomplishments yourself. And she did it all without spending a day in jail. I think if we could direct her focus to LEGISLATIVE accomplishments, she’ll do quite well.

Boxturtle (Have been wrong before, will be wrong again)

The future will make interesting watching. I look forward to the campaign and the potential to get some very constructive people in the downticket races for the House and Senate because whoever is President badly needs a Congress that can work constructively. The system as we both know, doesn’t make it easy to pass legislation.

I know one person running for Senate who would be a dramatic improvement who has an adult career of real experience. As people are suggesting at FDL, there are many promising candidates in their areas runinng for the House or the Senate.

Hilary has lost her Hollywood advantage, I wonder how many views that clip will get on you tube?

I haven’t called the Clinton woman any names but the Clinton woman, Hillary, Senator Clinton.

I have described her accurately as a racist, a liar, and most accurately defeated forever on the road to the White House a designation she richly deserves, and a place where she belongs.

She was never qualified to enter the race and she lied about a delusional experience skillset. She has tried hard to damage the Democratic nominee and has helped McCain but the vote turnout will overcome that particularly in states where Rush, Clinton, Buchanan, Scarborough and the Wright clucking, Ayres clucking talking head/chickenhawks never thought it would.

No name calling except “grizzled racist bitch” - two threads back. And equating her to a KKK grand dragon.

Her comments are verbatim identical to KKK Grand Dragons and I can tell you that they will now frame her exit (analagous to many feet in her ass).

I can easily retrieve Grand Dragon comments identical to the Clintons.

And no one has countered as to why she lied about experience she didn’t have for the job, with a very lack luster lobbyist and big money contributor driven Senate career.

And she simply is a grizzled racist bitch as is bubbah. This “we are the black people’s friend and bubbah is the black President” is all theatrics–one big cherade.

The Clintons are damn lucky they have their huge fortune and aren’t both in a BOP prison cube.

And again their failure to release that library contributor list is an effort to cover potential criminal activity and the 2007 Income taxes are a coverup for the same type of info.

If Clinton was so concerned about health care which finger did she lift to stop the killing by DHS and DOJ of immigrants in prison facilities that is the subject of the WaPo front page and 60 minutes airing on the East Coast right now?

The deaths occurred just a few miles from Bubbah Clinton’s office. You think he gives a shit? I don’t hear any speeches on the egregious medical cruelty by ICE from the Clintons.

And the deaths occur just miles from where LHP lives and works and I don’t hear any laments from her with that colorful banner on every headline post of “Don’t Torture” as to the ICE killings because of DHS and DOJ egregious medical care either.

The pic here says Torture is Wrong but it happens every day in ICE prisons in large citiesAnd torture occurs every day in the ICE detention facilities a stone’s throw from where LHP lives and works.

ICE ICE BABY! In Immigrant Prisons, Shoddy Medical Care

Detention in America Courtesy of ICE and DOJ

This has been SOP in DOJ facilities in the US for years with the deaths of many prisoners that could have been avoided by minimal standard medical care. Now it is getting attention in immigrant prisons in the US.

Many of the situations make Abu Garahab look like a Church Social.

Torture in Elizabeth New Jersey by ICE and DOJ Courtesy of Judge Chertoff and Judge Mukasey

There has been a very schizophrenic tone to Clinton’s campaign and everyone is noticing it. I don’t mean clinical schizophrenia, but the simplest lay term meaning flip flop mood swings. She has been pouty crying, and visciously clawing, switching her mood from state to state.

You will remember that at the conclusion of the next to the last debate, she said “I’m so honored to be here with Barack Obama” and last week she virtually said “He is a black man America will not vote for.”

If there were an award for Mrs. America Disigenuous she would win it hands down.

From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
Obama has pulled within two of taking the lead in what was once Clinton’s formidable superdelegate lead in the NBC News count. Today, the Illinois senator picked up the endorsement of California superdelegate Crystal Strait, a Young Democrats of America board member.

Strait is the first superdelegate to endorse this Sunday, but is Obama’s sixth pick up this weekend. Clinton gained one yesterday, but lost two for a net of negative one in the NBC News count.

The NBC NEWS delegate counts:
PLEDGED: Obama 1,590, Clinton 1,426
SUPERS: Clinton 276.5, Obama 275
TOTAL: Obama 1,865, Clinton 1,702.5