Sometimes you just need to start a new thread
9:23 PM: Howard Fineman says that this "steels their determination in the Clinton camp to fight for Michigan and Florida." Great. Once again, you simply don't get to say you won Michigan when your opponent didn't have his name on the ballot.
Fineman just pointed out that Obama became the candidate of "downtown Louisville." He is going to win there huge. But the rest of the state resents Louisville. And as Norah O'Donnell pointed out, 1 in 5 voters in KY didn't vote for Obama because he is black. That would be in Eastern and Western Kentucky. Eastern Kentucky is Appalachia. Not Obama territory.
After tonight, Obama may be within 40-50 delegates. I think supers are then going to go for him, as he probably wins South Dakota and Montana. But this primary season has already been crazy enough. So let's see....
9:31: Barack Obama has a majority of pledged delegates now. CNN just reported it. But my source was once again Cesca. Always Cesca.
9:38: Alex Castellanos is babbling again. It can be hard to talk when you're not used to talking through the blow-hole of a white pillow case.
10:11Howard Wolfson needs an enema. Or lots of valium. He just freaked and said something about Obama's being in Iowa for a "victory lap" a "slap in the face" the the gazillions of Hillary voters. Huh? Does Hillary always hang out in states she lost for her speeches?
Obama is now speaking. He "loves Iowa back." Ok, time to listen.
10:17: I know, Obama is speaking. This is just rude of me. But Cesca just got us this video from those two in ten voters in KY who won't vote for "the blacks":
10:24: "This year's Republican Primary was a contest to see who could Out-Bush each other...and John McCain won." Excellent. Now he's hitting McCain on his many flip-flops on Iraq, taxes, lobbyists, healthcare.
10:28: Obama is again hitting McCain on lacking the courage to sit down with our enemies. I love that frame. Because it is TRUE. And it is what we should have been saying for a while. It is the cowards who resort to violence immediately. They don't have the guts to work things out in a complicated world, instead of bombing people on false evidence....
10:44: According to Anderson Cooper, Obama is looking to have a big night in Oregon. If so, considering the fact that as David Neiwert points out, Kentucky is 90% white while Oregon is similarly 87% white, why is it that Hillary Clinton can't win white voters?
10:55: Debbie Wasserman Shultz, Hillary supporter, thinks super-delegates are "elitist." Amen.
10:57: Cesca!: CNN's John King just used his magic-marker fingers to draw what appeared to be a large bowel across "rural" Kentucky. That's about right.
10:58: Oregon numbers are on their way, or so I hear on the teeeveeeee.
11:04: Obama wins. He is "competitive" among white-working class and white women in Oregon, according to Norah O'Donnell. So, um, we've pretty much been wasting the past three hours talking about Obama's white working-class voter problem?
11%
Obama 63%
Hillary 37%
11:12:
17%
Obama 61%
Hillary 39%
11:15: 59% of voters in Oregon self-identify as "liberal." Obama won them 57% to 40%. Obama also split working-class whites and white women. We're not yet sure how he's done among gay Aremenians.
11:21: Thanks to commenter InnocentBystander for pointing out that yet again McCain is sucking wind in a primary where the only opponent is "anybody but the cranky old guy." He couldn't break 80% in North Carolina and Indiana, among others. Well, he is only at 72.5% in KY. Hell, Rudy Giuliani got 1.5% of the vote and he has been out of this race since his old combover went out of style. I am waiting to hear someone mention McCain's weak showing.
11:34: More from Oregon:
42%
Obama 58%
Hillary 42%
11:38: Cesca: Chuck Todd: 115 of the 212 remaining undeclared superdelegates are from states that went for Senator Obama. The dude catches everything!
All right folks, time for me to cash in. Have yourself a heckuva night.
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Obama doesn’t have a “white” problem, he has a “redneck cracker” problem. Hillary should be so proud.
Meanwhile, John McCain’s bangs home in KY with 72% of the Republican vote. If “Other” was a better fundraiser, he might be beating the Straight Talker.
10:55: Debbie Wasserman Shultz, Hillary supporter, thinks super-delegates are “elitist.” Amen.
Did someone ask Debbie if she included herself in that elitist tag?
Cliff:
Any chance of updating the Novick/Merkley race?
Hey Nelson,
I am trying to get them, and will have it up as soon as I do…it should be soon.
Sounds like she’s having problems convincing them to support “her” candidate. I’m sure she wouldn’t say that if they were leading in the Super Delegate count…as in fact they were a few weeks ago. Then it was all “we luv the Super Delegates” and “the Super Delegates should have the right to make up their own mind”.
My suspicion is that the Super D’s in Florida and Michigan are arranging a deal…seat the delegations and they will balance that by swinging their support to Obama. That way the delegations get to vote their “commitment” while Obama still wins those who have no commitment to a particular delegate.