7:55 - MSNBC - Harold Ford Jr. discusses Barack Obama's "global DNA" and reminds those who might think Obama is "elitist" that John McCain married into a beer fortune. For that, Ford gets a "HA!" laugh from Chris Matthews.
8:01 - Fox - Obama has 2128 - or 10 more delegates than needed at this point.
Karl Rove is providing analysis tonight. I guess that means Don Siegelman won't be on the show.
8:06 - Bob Cesca, liveblogging at his uber-cool site, brings up something I was thinking when watching MSNBC. How did they get their numbers, showing Hillary Clinton leading in the popular vote by 3K votes? Are they not counting the caucus states? Because, um, they count.
8:08 - I just turned back to Fox. Karl Rove is on. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
8:11 - CNN - Wolf Blitzer says that Obama has 2114, and is four away. So they differ with Fox by 14. Also, Candy Crowley just said that Hillary Clinton "knows her place in the party" and will not take this fight to the convention. I am very, very, cautiously optimistic.
8:14 - Joba Chamberlain has already reached his pitch count in his first start as a New York Yankee. Only 2 innings and he's out. Bummer. Ok, back to The Greatest American Election. Ever.
8:18 - John McCain will be speaking soon. From Louisiana. I wonder if he showed up with that birthday cake he proudly displayed while New Orleans residents were drowning.
8:24 - Chuck Todd points out how Mitt Romney can help McCain in the West with Mormons and Michigan, his dad's state. Tom Ridge. Kay Bailey Hutchison. Sarah Palin. The names are flying. Mike Huckabee.
"McCain has a problem exciting evangelicals." Yes, as they are homosapiens, it makes sense.
8:31 - Howard Fineman on MSNBC- "Obama will offer Hillary the VP position...if he can be guaranteed in advance that she won't take it."
Fineman adds that Hillary doesn't want it, but but wants to be offered, and doesn't want it offered to another woman.
8:38 - McCain speaks - Thanks Hillary on behalf of his daughters. Which is why, I guess he called his wife a four-letter word that rhymes with runt and wants to put another Alito on the Court.
Democrats are for changes that worked in the mid-20th Century. You know, when McCain was only 45. And Republican policies have worked so well, I sure am ready to believe McCain that he knows what's best.
Wow, McCain just screwed his applause line. He needs some media training.
8:47 - Is trying to say he is not like Bush. I reminds me of The Life Of Brian. What have the Romans done for us? You know, besides education, the Aqueducts, the law, medicine, the roads....
McCain claims he puts his country before the special interests. Tell that to the lobbyists on staff who have done business with every dictator with a dollar and a dream.
All this "progress" would be lost in Iraq if Obama had his way. I guess McCain would have to be protected by 200 soldiers and 12 Appache Helicopters next time, instead of 100 soldiers and 6 Appaches.
Now McCain is trotting out how Obama will sit down and negotiate with terrible dictators. You know, the same ones his top advisors lobbied for.
8:53 - Anyone else notice that the crowd doesn't quite know when to boo or clap. Wonder who got the job of holding up the signs to tell them when to do which.
Now McCain is talking about "energy independence." Yeah, he's as likely to deliver that as Phil Gramm is to grow hair.
More Cesca brilliance: You know McBush's best asset in this thing? He's white. But not just white-white. He's almost translucent -- like those weird subterranean creatures that live in total darkness.
John McCain believes he can make healthcare cheaper. I hear he also believes that his speaking style is Churchillian and you won't soon need a crane to lift my eyelids if I keep listening to him.
MSNBC - Obama is the nominee. It seems everyone is agreeing. Obama is the nominee. Thank God they broke away from McCain's oratorical waterboarding of all cable tv viewers.
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Just proof that Tweety isn’t giving up his McCain man love any time soon. All those that thought Tweety loved Obama were kidding themselves. Tweety was just playing primary games. Tweety still loves the smell of Aqua Velva.
Tweets hates the idea that anyone might have come up tougher than he did. Or got farther with his hard work.
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Karl Rove is providing analysis tonight. I guess that means Don Siegelman won’t be on the show.
ooh, that’s cold. I like it.
Appalachia is getting more and more crowded… it looks like the second huge techtonic shift in three days is occurring, and just like Puerto Rico wound up between West Virginia and Kentucky, it looks like they’re making room for SD in the mountain areas of Pennsylvania….
of course, a blatantly sexist remark (knows her place indeed) is passed on as if its perfecty normal….why would I think otherwise from an Obama supporter?
Just got in from digging in the garden… Just in time to hear on MSNBC that McSame is going to play all smoochy-face with Hillary and ’splain to us how HE’S really the change candidate… Did somebody feed our Johnny some funny mushrooms for lunch?
Don’t you have somewhere else to go?
Well, Candy is also a stupid, tone-deaf moron…
Say goodnight Hillary.
Oh, geez…. Did I just feed another one? Sorry…
we knew that Savannah…. its the fact that it can get quited without comment by Obama supporters that is the issue here.
You a sore loser or just a loser?
Chump at best
Enough. We don’t do pie fights here, please.
Here where?
Drive-by just to tell you how much I’m enjoying your diary.
What up Rave?
There’s a sky writer out my window. Lemme see if I can read it
s-u-r-r-e-n-d-e-r h-i-l-l-a-r-y
OK, I’m taking a poll. BO will appoint some Repugs to his cabinet as per Mr. Lincoln. Nominations? I’ll go first: Ahhhnold…maybe for Energy Secretary, given what he’s done in CA (good, basically snubbed Shrub and left the Union…)
That really sucks about Chamberlain, though.
Please save me….. the hotel only has Faux & CNN
McCainco is the problem.
??? I doubt that you mean Neville…
Dunno, I’m always interested when we get told what we do here.
Hmmmmm. Can’t think. I’m trying to think northeast. Republicans aren’t quite so batshit crazy there. Ummmmm….. I dunno. It’ll come to me. What about what’s his face? Bloomberg. As ……. ???????
Oh, ouch… One is worse than the other, but they keep switching places…
they took someone who could actually be better then the greatest relieve who ever lived, (mariano) who could possibly have a hand in 80 games a season and turned him into a pitcher that could at BEST have a hand in one out of four
steinbreenr jr is a moron
Aaron
Joba
I blame steinbrenner junior
I also am wondering if mccain will announce is running mate to be either bill or hillary
don’t have me
I blame junior
Here’s the last graph from comment 177 that pluk (lukasiak) made on an earlier thread.
When the blog pack attacks
I remember when pluk was a very respected commenter at FDL and thenexthurrah. Very recently, he was posting for Jane. Now it sounds like he wants to throw his support behind McCain. I sure hope I’m wrong.
Go Dodgers!
i hope you forgot the snark tag. please tell me you did.
Oh we don’t talk that way here.
I hadn’t moved East yet! I was wondering about Chafee, ‘though he’s an Indie now. I suppose that counts.
Sorry about this line of subject matter. The TeeVee blathering is getting to my brain. And I’m going to have to leave in a minute, once McBush comes on. I’ll probably go outside and toss the tennis ball to the dog for a bit.
when do the last polls close by real time, i.e. Eastern time? 10?? 11?? what is montana? mountain time??
Back when I was a young ‘un we had folks like Rockefeller, and John Lindsay, and Bill Green who used to be my Congresscritter. (NOT to be confused with Mark Green who tried to run against him and got pounded into paste.) Now, not so much. Consider Ghouliani…
Dave my apologies. I missed your 15. Please ask someone to delete my 33.
I don’ give a damn who he supports.
So she don’t want it and he be offerin’ it to her on the condition she don’t take it. But she done said to ole Barack “Don’t you dare pick another woman on the ticket. Ah already have too damn many other women in mah life since Arkansas. And now there’s the Gina story on the front pages.”
That’s called a win-win at the Harvard Program on Negotiation
Karl Rove on Faux: Guess we won’t see
Leura the Canary Slut and her Slimeball husband
Scottie Libbie won’t be makin’ no appearances
Fitz who should have indicted him and swoons into Day 12 of the Tony Rezko trial while reading an autograph copy of McClellan’s book.
Boy bringin’ down Tony Rezko or hung jury? in Chicago has made such a huge impact on our country. Fitz has an office open costing you tens of thousands a day–it functions to say “no comment” and Rove goes free spewing his delusions on Fox. So Fitzie can be tough on two bit players like Tony Rezko, but won’t touch Karl Rove. That’s kind of like goin’ into Iraq and making a clusterfuck and letting the Taliban take over Afghanistan ain’t it Fitzie?
This isn’t a happy night for Rove, but Rove who has been wrong about everything since the 2006 midterms, and the famous fly over photo of Katrina will get on the Buchanan bandwaggon to bang the gavel for Clinton as VP who hsa as much a chance for that as the Titanic has to win the Americas cup.
How appropriate that Tweets and KO are doing the season Finale “HillNormaRae” LOST with the Oceanic Six in hermetically sealed Baruch stadium.
I don’t want to make any rash predictions, but I’m taking it that the Ron Burkle 20 somethings who fly on F__k Ron Air with Bubba won’t be on the podium with Hillary and neither will one of his babes Gina Gershon:
CNN) — Actress Gina Gershon is demanding a retraction from Vanity Fair after the magazine reported “high-end Hollywood dinner-party gossip” that former President Clinton “has been seen visiting” her in California.
Vanity Fair: Money for Nothin’ and the Chicks are Free on Air Burkle
If he was visiting Gina he was discussing theraputic modalities for his HIV protocols and projects in Africa and Tsunami rescue. Nothing else. How dare Dee Dee Myers’ husband sully the pages of Vanity Fair with such contrieved scandals about my former President.
Guess Bubba shit on Dee Dee one too many times.
Ha, sounds like 10 people in a conex at the Mc Cain rally.
Well, the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree. I always bewailed the fact that the Yankees couldn’t fire the owner…
Those are his yard guy’s workers.
I used to always get those two mixed up. we had some decent repubs in NJ too. compared to now, I mean.
Fitz swoonin’ into Day 12 of jury deliberations while looking up the name Rove in the dictionary.
Probably not on Fox with Rove.
Conyers probably not on Fox with Rove.
I’ve missed reading your comments…surgical strikes!
the purpose of the republicans would certainly be to pull our strings and create fighting among ourselves
I kind of think democrats are a little too sophisticated to play the role of marionette, that is saved for the republicans
I do not believe for even a second anyone who has payed any kind of attention is voting for more neo fascists running this country
not for one moment
Paper’s please!
Mc*unt just said the choice is between change going forwards or going backwards…
Thanks John, you just made our case.
i agree.
Can they read from the prompter in debates? This flyboy is toast.
don’t follow, do you have a link?
Mute on…. can’t listen to him, been forced to since he is my Senator that I never voted for but he is…… What I want to know is why CindyLou hasn’t gotten some teeth whitener sessions going on him….. it is the only thing of color on his face except the scar tissue …… yuck…
Huh? Where am I? Is this still the lake? Nobody told us it was up here.
Paul–
Whatcha gonna be drinkin’ tonight as your candidate kabuki dances away–not givbing a rat’s ass for the office of VP but lovin’ the limelight that the cables have hours to kill until Barack speaks?
jane links to the blogs she hosts when they are doing a piece she wahted covered at the lake
good for everyone
You need to, this is hilarious.
You’re kidding, right? (No volume, can’t bear it…)
Help! I am lost at the lake! Where’s the mod tower? Where’s my floatie?
cliff needs to change the header graphic now.
w00t~!
Awww, man, all’s I got is a pipe.
Hi Cassie… how are you?
shorter john mcsame: “a pony in every pot!”
Not kidding!
So are more people here or back at the thread I was at before?
Hi Katymine! I’m good! I am a junior now.
Makes it kinda hard to figure out just who can tell us what to, and not to post. Whose in charge here.
I just went into the kitchen where Mr. Marion in Savannah is puttering around and informed him that McSame was on my TeeBee smooching Hillary and draping himself in the mantle of change. Here’s a complete and direct quote of his reaction:
“Huh?”
He doesn’t follow politics as obsessively as I do, but even his jaw dropped over that one.
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McCane is on my tv sounding pathetic.
An apple, chicken bone, pop-flare, coke can. . .
Obama’s the “wrong change” who looks backwards at policies that have failed…
Is he on crack????
Hi, dear heart! Here’s an inflatable raft, and flippers, and goggles. Great to see you!
Time for a gentle reminder…
JR in HS or just like GWB?
Suzanne has been off for the wedding…. waving HI from NYC at ya…
Can we please just make him irrelevant now?
Sheesh.
FunnyD
Hot water for babies?
I have the sound off. Cannot listen to him. He’s looks a funny color.
McSame laughs just like Pelosi.
McCain’s yappin’? Glad I don’t have cable TV.
Ah don’t get on the Lake ’cause Jane said I was over the line. Criticism of Clinton was allowed based on who did it; not the quality or accuracy of what was said on the Lake.
Plus there would be the learning curve, the sophistication, and the vocabularity I’d have to cram into such a short time. *g*
Yeah, he looks like he fell asleep under a tanning machine…hmmm…that wouldn’t be good for him…
McCain is just a whole lot of nothing.
If Sen. Obama doesn’t win by 6-8 points, our country is worse off than I thought.
I have to assume that the person I was talking about is an adult. He’s capable of processing information and making his own choices.
OMG instead of CindyLou whitening McBush’s teeth…. she whitened the crowd…. IS there anyone of color there?
11th grade junior.
I am going to NY in two weeks.
McCain is bound and determined to put the electorate asleep.
In Re McCain:
There is such an abundance of rich material with which to take McCain apart there is absolutely no reason the Democrats can’t pull this off–and acquit themselves handsomely in the downticket races as well. There are some fantastic candidates this fall.
I love it when he gives that “I’m so great and pure and honest” look, with his head slightly cocked and his eyes raised…
Did he just have a cryosurgery on his left face? What’s that white shiny spot between his left eye and ear?
McSame really likes his own jokes…if they are jokes…
You caught that too?
“treatment of detainees”….?????
OMG…he “is” on crack…
This is the dumbest speech I’ve ever heard…
Uh, oh…he just attacked Pukes, Dems..and the press. “I don’t answer to them, I answer to you.”
sorry martha, didn’t mean to attach that to your comment
707!
Ooooh, I know! Let’s have his campaign whine about how the networks are making his crowds sound small and the Dem’s crowds sound much bigger when he’s really teh awesome!
Were can we float that rumor?
FunnyD
I heard it as “bottled water.”
Thanks but I think I am still kinda lost. Is this the same lake? Or an inlet somewhere? How do I get back to the real lake?
Coke cans before pop tops. That was fun.
I could not listen to this man for four years. I’d have to move in with Brangelina.
McSame is defending the Surge while bashing Obama…
McCain’s yappin’? Glad I don’t have cable TV.
Actually, he’s just reading. Badly and to a decidedly unenthusiastic crowd.
He doesn’t ever seem to know what to do with his body parts. All his movements are strange - head movements especially.
Fineman adds that Hillary doesn’t want it, but but wants to be offered, and doesn’t want it offered to another woman”
If this is true then shame on Hillary for keeping another woman from a position that she doesn’t even want to have for herself. So much for supporting women.
I’m watching McCain right now and he is so creepy. Before I saw Republicans vote for Bush I’d have said that McCain’s creepiness would prevent him from getting any votes. But if they can vote for an obviously unqualified idiot like Bush then I guess McCain has a shot at it despite how much he lies and flip flops.
We had some fun earlier talking about things that were younger than McCain, like fire and dirt and fossil fuels and dinosaurs…
In 2001 he had radical excision for malignant melanoma with excision of nodes in his neck in a 4-5 hour surgery….. Extensive plastic repair afterwards….. inquiring minds would like to know his tumor rating…
In their French chateau?
Not likely. And he just informed us that he hates war! He knows.
wow… this is another example of why Obama will lose in November if he is the nominee. His supporters don’t even know when they are insulting key constituency groups, because Obama has not demanded that they respect anyone but Obama supporters.
McCain is in his early 70s. Most seniors don’t consider themselves OLD at that age — and unless Obama’s supporters learn to respect women, and older voters, and white working class voters — its not just going to be an Obama loss — Democrats will loose congress.
Either go to “home” and pick a post…or wait until a new post comes up.
They’ve linked several blogs together, and when there’s a new post folks tell us. To get back to the “real lake” go up to the top of this page and click on firedoglake, to the right of “home.”
Oh I think McCain has a huge audience. There must be at least 200 people there.
The person who wrote the individual blog, of course.
It sounds like someone is cueing the audience as to when they should clap and boo. Doesn’t sound like much of a crowd, does it?
Just click on the Firedoglake button at the top of the page. Those are the blogs that are part of the Firedoglake network. Cool, no?
There were a couple of black men on the stage before Governor Jindel came on. What shocks me is that Kenner, LA was announced as “New Orleans.” And Kenner refused to let black refugees from NO enter their town! Tell us anything we didn’t already know about McSame’s campaign?
McC also said that he “didn’t agree with the current administration on everything.” Is that why he voted with Bush 100% of the time in 2008?
Yeah. That left cheek swelling whispers “parotid tumor” to me too…